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Where in the hell are the churches?

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"Many churches are better serving premium blend coffee drinks... than the truth"
I don't write about this topic lightly, and as you'll see by the dates---I've allowed several months and multiple opportunities to pass. I have no desire to 'broad-brush' an entire church based on the behavior of one or two representatives and NO WAY will I lie about a church, but as it turns out, my 'now former church' is a poster child for 'religious political correctness' crossing paths with 'uncompromising reality.' So as a result, I am now forced to use a much 'looser definition' of the word 'church'... but this in no way diminishes my love for God. ~JDG

I began attending Kansas City's Heartland Community Church in 2008 while it was still a small neighborhood church that often required parking in the street, but that of course, was before they moved into their new mega-complex (pictured below). The people were cool. The music was cool...and Pastor Deeble gave some very inspiring and thought-provoking sermons. For the first time in my life, I actually felt I connected with a church --- and I was diggin' it. Not to mention, they serve assorted flavors of premium-blend coffees for your sipping enjoyment during the sermon.

Last August, I was all set to be baptized when everything changed. I had a 'Spiritual Advisor/Sponsor' and we talked about a ton of stuff. I was asked to share things that were the most personal...and I did. A few 'man tears' were even shed. Everything was rockin along until my questions turned to 'why the church never mentions anything about our children being robbed of the religious freedoms that you and I took for granted... just 25 years ago?

Little did I know I had just entered the Forbidden Zone--- I was now in the AREA 51 of Religious Political Correctness.

Fast forward eight months to now, and I am still uncertain if it was just 'the mere mention of Caesar' OR the fact that I suggested that 'Caesar may not have our best interest at heart' --- but regardless, I've been ridiculed, insulted and/or ignored by multiple Heartland reps since I brought it up. My request to be baptized was NEVER again even acknowledged by Heartland... although I was encouraged to 'try another church'.

"Heather can have two mommies---but Johnny can't have a bible?"

How in the hell can a church remain a ‘silent dis-interested third party’ when our own children are being subjected to NOT just a 'God Neutral' system, but to a Militant Anti-God Agenda? Christmas is already already banned ... but they're allowed to say FU*K"? OR how about how our symbols--our crosses & The Ten Commandments-- being ripped down... Or that it's become a CRIME to pray on public property?
OH...and as of this writing, now Caesar is trying to force Catholic Hospitals to provide services against their teaching? Are you kidding me? Even, if, like me, you're not Catholic ---this should scare the hell out of Christians of all denominations... from all parts of our country.
This hostility from the Federal Government was 'completely unheard of' 25 years ago.----How is this none of our business?

What's changed over the past 25 years? Man or God?

Sadly, Heartland cannot be singled out. More and more churches won't even discuss the topic---even in private. LifePointe Church also in Kansas City is another---very nice people, but don't question Caesar.
Some have suggested---and I believe reasonably so--- that most of these 'silent churches' hold on tighter to their 503 (c) tax exemption status that they hold to their bible. This does not 'excuse' their acquiescence to 'anti-God' forces--- it spotlights it.

How are 'churches that refuse to speak of Caesar for fear of losing their 'tax status' different from 'the money-changers' in Matthew 21:12? [Which also demonstrates that Jesus was no pacifist either.]
Please add your church to the comment section below... while it is profoundly important to smoke out the 'fake churches'... it's even MORE important to recognize the churches that actually stand up for Christianity, stay true to God's word and are not paralyzed by political correctness.

Contrary to popular belief---there is no "Freedom of Speech" exclusion for Christians.

AUTHOR'S NOTE: This is not a debate about the separation of church and state, but we will get to that soon. So, you folks yelling about "Thomas Jefferson's Letter to The Danbury Baptists"--- simmer down. Actually you may want to read TJ's letter in it's entirety (as opposed to just your one favorite phrase) --- so you will be better prepared when I dissect your absurd anti-God arguments like a biology class frog. We will also look closely at 'the deciding vote of the 1947 Supreme Court Case cast by KKK member Hugo Black"... But make no mistake, no matter how hard some may try to hide, erase and manipulate our Christian Heritage--although it can be hidden, History does not lie. The United States absolutely WAS founded on JudoChristian values... and unlike you loudmouth unholy jackasses, we have documented historical data to support our claims.

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In closing, contrary to popular notions--Christians are STILL the majority in America, so I'd like to encourage you guys to ask your own church---DON'T BE AGGRESSIVE OR ARGUMENTATIVE--- be respectful. This is not a game or a contest, and kindness may actually even make them re-consider with a new perspective. But neither should you allow them to change the subject... which is a very popular response.

I'm not a perfect man, and I don't claim to be---but neither is any other man...and this is precisely why we need God, and it is precisely why we need our churches to practice honesty... not just preach about it.
If our churches ARE in support of Caesar's hostility--according to our own teachings, it's the church's duty to be honest with us. If the church is against this government hostility, it's their duty to be honest about that as well... but there is no way on God's green earth that the church would not have an opinion regarding "attacks ON the church." No Way.

God bless you guys, and God bless America---it's time to stand up.

Joe Dan Gorman, JoeDanMedia.com

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Comment by John Stolte on May 24, 2012 at 8:09pm: Here is another problem with the churches: some have chosen to go against scripture. The United Church of Christ chose to begin ordaining gays in 1972. This man James Semmelroth, took over as pastor of a UCC in St. Clair, Mo and immediately announced that he is bisexual. When other churches softball teams declined to play with the UCC team Semmelroth immediately contacted the media and began making a big deal about "intolerance". I know that he went to that church in that town with an agenda which is to force the community to accept his lifestyle. This is an example of a church and a pastor attempting to rot the fabric of our society from within. http://www.emissourian.com/news/st_clair_news/article_75ff2278-a11b...

Comment by Kathy Brown, Esq. on May 2, 2012 at 11:18pm: Oh, Kim, you're right. This is so stupid it's funny!

Or would be, if it weren't true. Reminds me of one of our cardinals, Cardinal Pell. HE BELIEVES that gays should be able to be married-in the Church, yet! And guess what? HE'S ONE OF THE CANDIDATES for a high place, a kind of 'watchdog', for the Vatican!

No...you can't make this stuff up. 'Course there's no need to. More's the pity.

Comment by Kim Quade on May 2, 2012 at 2:16pm: Well, here's another problem with the churches:

http://cyberbrethren.com/2012/05/01/online-support-group-for-christ...

Atheists in the pulpit. You can't make this stuff up.

Comment by Greg Beal on May 1, 2012 at 10:42pm: Now here is some really disturbing stories about preachers being involved with and supporting OWS and the May Day protests/riots: http://www.theblaze.com/stories/occupy-faith-this-is-what-christian...

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/historic-nyc-church-will-hold-pro-o...

Comment by Greg Beal on April 28, 2012 at 5:11pm: The Black Robe Regiment is here: http://www.blackrobereg.org/, for clergy and lay people.

History of the Black Robe Regiment: http://brr.wallbuilders.com/the-original-brr/what-is-the-black-robe...

And a .ning site for a group: http://blackroberegiment.ning.com/

Comment by Sally on April 28, 2012 at 2:43pm: None of us are receiving the notification e-mails on a regular basis, Martin - even Alex! But he's working on the problem. I, too, almost missed this one and several other things I'd have been sad to have overlooked. And may I add to your list of biggest problems: the mainstream media! In the old days, they vetted ALL candidates and wrote about more than just liberal issues. Now we are on our own to find information that is often purposely hidden, as the media are no longer reporting but are expressing liberal opinions, and getting their talking points from the White House. It's a HUGE problem for everyone - staying accurately informed is now a full-time and difficult job for each of us.

Comment by Martin Oliver Bridges Sr on April 28, 2012 at 9:35am: Good grief! I never received the email about this post. I was just looking through the links on the main page and stumbled into one of the greatest posts I have ever read, not to mention the thoughtful and insightful attached comments! I now have to put JoeDanMedia.com in my list of bookmarks.

If we study true history, we can find everything that was mentioned in this article. The biggest problem with our world, and country, today is that people either refuse to learn from history, ignore it, or revise it to suit their preformed opinions. I look forward with great anticipation the coming attractions promised in the Author's Note above.

Comment by Yvonne Starks on April 27, 2012 at 9:48pm: Where is George Whitfield when we need him? Black Robe Brigade 2012 !

Comment by John Stolte on April 27, 2012 at 5:18pm: Sally, I'm not talking about something as mild as education. The churches literally need to stand up and tell their congregations just how tyrannical, perverted and corrupt this administration is and need to advise them to resist in any and all ways. There needs to be some real hellfire and brimstone language directed towards this administration from the top (Obama) right on down to the bottom.

Comment by Yvonne Starks on April 27, 2012 at 5:09pm: Kathy, et al: Following up from the Catholic Salt and his angry tirade on Paul Ryan....thought I'd post Ryan's statement from his "Fact vs Fiction---Path to Prosperity" flyer....specifically that "The Path' of Ryan's plan GUTS ENTITLEMENTS ....

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PAUL RYAN: ...."Spending for Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid is far greater than the programs are taking in. These three programs are the biggest dirvers of higher spending and deeper deficits; combined, they will add $99.4 TRILLION in unfunded liabilities that future generations of Americans can't possibly pay. All three are heading toward bankruptcy unless we take immediate action to save them.

Our PATH TO PROSPERITY offers a concrete, realistic, and specific plan to save our entitlements by reforming them, honoring the commitments we've made to those who are retired now or retiring soon and securing the now-frayed safety net that's risking the well being of those most in need."

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Know this is somewhat off the churches, but not entirely because of Salt's "Catholic United" message.....No one wants to do without anything now or forever per the liberal mentality....when ONE TRILLION A YEAR (Given FREE) is not enough! Salt's whining and sad-sack story is similar to what Republican Governor Scott Walker in Wisconsin is enduring. Ryan and Wallace (both Republicans) are trying to make plans and moving to SAVE the programs that have become totally unsustainable....now and definitely into the future. We've all been brought up in such entitlement, thinking that America is one big bank account and the masses cannot accept that the spending has caught up with us and that the excessive good times are over.....